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Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 8 @ 6:41 PM ET
Hank Balling: Buy Low on Luukkonen
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 8 @ 6:48 PM ET
Nice Read Hank!!
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 8 @ 6:56 PM ET
Nice Read Hank!!
- Buff36


Thx, 36.

Go Bills

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 8 @ 7:07 PM ET
Hank Balling: Buy Low on Luukkonen
- Hank Balling

nice read

3 years
7.5 mil total

2.5 per year


if he thrives, value deal

if not, slightly overpaid backup goalie contract
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Aug 8 @ 7:09 PM ET
Thx, 36.

Go Bills


- Hank Balling

jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 8 @ 7:11 PM ET
I like words
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 8 @ 7:18 PM ET

- homiedclown




It's Bills szn
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 8 @ 7:43 PM ET
Applaud the creativity, but 4 years takes him straight to UFA. There's not much upside here. He's an obvious bridge.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 8 @ 8:00 PM ET
Thx, 36.

Go Bills


- Hank Balling

Nice to see some of that Oline back this week. And a little birdie says Xavier Rhodes could be at Camp on Thursday visiting.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Aug 8 @ 8:02 PM ET


It's Bills szn

- Hank Balling

Like that reaction by the WR. That little double clutch after Hyde flew by like did I drop that.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 8 @ 8:05 PM ET
Applaud the creativity, but 4 years takes him straight to UFA. There's not much upside here. He's an obvious bridge.
- Lunaion


This is essentially buying UPL as a 4-year, $2m bridge for the ascedence of Levi. Best case, you're getting elite 1A/1B goaltending from that pair in years 3 and 4 for less than $4m total while you're still paying Skinner and the Thompson contract has kicked in. Worst case, you have a waivable off-injured goalie who isn't making much
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 8 @ 8:22 PM ET
This is essentially buying UPL as a 4-year, $2m bridge for the ascedence of Levi. Best case, you're getting elite 1A/1B goaltending from that pair in years 3 and 4 for less than $4m total while you're still paying Skinner and the Thompson contract has kicked in. Worst case, you have a waivable off-injured goalie who isn't making much
- Hank Balling


If it takes him to UFA, it's not a bridge. Even your best case scenario is a bad here.

Ullmark signed 2 years for 1.5 total, 1.325, and 2.6. Terrible mismanagement, but his 4 years post-ELC cost a little under 5.5m. An injury prone starter who performed pretty well for them. Why would you rush to give UPL more? If he works out, you need to buy UFA years.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
You think Cozens has more offensive upside than Quinn? As a noted Quinn hater, I disagree there.
- sbroads24


Plays the more important position and I think will be the better 200 foot player.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 8 @ 8:25 PM ET
I’m hoping UPL gets 20 starts next year. We need to see what we have with him.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 8 @ 8:44 PM ET
If it takes him to UFA, it's not a bridge. Even your best case scenario is a bad here.

Ullmark signed 2 years for 1.5 total, 1.325, and 2.6. Terrible mismanagement, but his 4 years post-ELC cost a little under 5.5m. An injury prone starter who performed pretty well for them. Why would you rush to give UPL more? If he works out, you need to buy UFA years.

- Lunaion


It's always going to cost more later. Give him a few bucks now and it can be revisited in 4 years when the team's goaltending landscape probably looks totally different. If you bridge him for a year or two now, you're guaranteed to pay later one way or other, with UPL making more in 12-24 months, or different guy making more to back up Levi.

Put another way, you can slow play his RFA years with escalating small deals, but he'll always still have the opportunity to take his QO in the last year and walk after. Might as well get some cost certainty now and buy the whole thing on the cheap
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 8 @ 9:06 PM ET
It's always going to cost more later. Give him a few bucks now and it can be revisited in 4 years when the team's goaltending landscape probably looks totally different. If you bridge him for a year or two now, you're guaranteed to pay later one way or other, with UPL making more in 12-24 months, or different guy making more to back up Levi.

Put another way, you can slow play his RFA years with escalating small deals, but he'll always still have the opportunity to take his QO in the last year and walk after. Might as well get some cost certainty now and buy the whole thing on the cheap

- Hank Balling


We're never going to agree on bridge deals. Not going to try to convince you, we all know he will be bridged.

If you want to break the mold, it can't be on a 4 year deal. If you really believe in him, make it 6. Let's be honest though, the real conversation on this subject is Cozens.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Aug 8 @ 9:16 PM ET
We're never going to agree on bridge deals. Not going to try to convince you, we all know he will be bridged.

If you want to break the mold, it can't be on a 4 year deal. If you really believe in him, make it 6. Let's be honest though, the real conversation on this subject is Cozens.

- Lunaion


He'll get bridged unless he has a monster breakout offensive season this year. Even then I'm giving it 50/50 odds he gets a max deal. Maybe something closer to Matthews length-wise
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Aug 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
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Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 8 @ 9:48 PM ET
He'll get bridged unless he has a monster breakout offensive season this year. Even then I'm giving it 50/50 odds he gets a max deal. Maybe something closer to Matthews length-wise
- Hank Balling


He likely will be bridged, but he'll also be around 200 NHL games and a long term deal is a real conversation.
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Aug 8 @ 10:16 PM ET
Kadri to islanders? 5x$8.5?

Puljarvi to Leafs?

Movement! Lol
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Aug 8 @ 10:34 PM ET
Kadri to islanders? 5x$8.5?

Puljarvi to Leafs?

Movement! Lol

- Lilroot9

Stupid, the Islanders don't need him. Lou needs to call it quits.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Aug 8 @ 10:53 PM ET
More fun.

https://www.tsn.ca/yost-g...-s-centre-depth-1.1834140
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Aug 8 @ 11:39 PM ET
2 U’s and 2 k’s…. Double uk!
RichardRoma
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 01.18.2017

Aug 9 @ 10:32 AM ET
What do you want Beane to give the Bears for Roquan Smith?


https://www.espn.com/nfl/...uests-trade-chicago-bears
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Aug 9 @ 10:35 AM ET
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